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Avataric Revelation Discourse — December 21, 2004 "Experiences are not Me. Know this. I am Saying it. They are not Me." AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: If you see Me in some visionary sense, or I say something and you hear it without My being physically there, well that is interesting. Examine that phenomena and feel everything about it. On the other hand, do not identify the experience with Me. I am not the experience. At most it is an effect of My Presence. I am simply My Presence, My Person. I remain, the experience does not—it is gone. Just to say you have had it, you already know it is gone. It happened, and it is past. In fact, you could not have perceived it until it was already past, because it takes time for it to be generated as an experience— even just a brief moment of time, you could say—but nonetheless, it is in time, of time, of self. It is a permutation of the body-mind, as well as some kind of evidence of My Person, perhaps, or at least evidence of your response to Me. All these phenomena are of interest. They may and should be hopefully inspiring to your practice, but they are not, in and of themselves, to be identified with Me. So I do not care what I said in your dream, you see. That is not the point. The point is I said it, not what I said. Do not imagine that your vision of Me in a dream is Me. You will be looking for Me in your dreams from that time on, trying to see Me again. Whereas in the moments you are not seeing Me in your dreams, I am still here—so I am not in the form of some experience. I will not always be here in this Bodily Form. There will be photographs and all the rest, but I will not be physically animated. I will be present, however, just as I am now and accessible by the means, specific means I have indicated, and those are the means that are to be tested. The evaluation of what is going on with devotees needs to be made on the basis of those specific indications, the specific means I have indicated, the specific process I have indicated, approaching Me in association with the agencies I have indicated specifically—My Word, all that is authorized by the Ruchira Sannyasin Order, according to My Word, Instructions I have otherwise Given them, approaching the Ruchira Sannyasin Order in the context of the Samrajya circumstance, approaching Me in places I have set aside for the purpose and so on, that I expect to be maintained in perpetuity for My use and beyond My Physical Lifetime and during it. So there are very specific means, but events and the experiences are not themselves Me. They are evidence, effects of My Person, or otherwise your response to Me in the body-mind. The body-mind is a mechanism that goes through changes under influence of its own patterning, and otherwise effects from beyond itself that become integrated with its own patterning. I therefore am received in the context of the body-mind—gross, subtle, and causal dimensions or patterns of its patterning—and I show up as various kinds of experiences. Experiences are not Me. Know this. I am Saying it. They are not Me. And I have otherwise Said it in The Dawn Horse Testament in My descriptions in various places, including the fundamental description of hearing or what Spiritual reception of Me is about as a process. There is no status by any of this, and it must be tested according to My Word and by those who I have given the authority to examine and consider peoples' practice. It must be tested and found not to be nonsense, because this Way is not a lie. People can lie, though, and people can be deceived. People deceive themselves and they tend to be deceived by virtue of who they are, by their own patterning. There has to be a cultural input that is senior to peoples' egoic disposition, that tests them, keeps them accountable, measures them according to My Word, keeps the discipline of that test alive and viable, so that revisionism does not take over Adidam and egos do not take over Adidam, so Adidam does not become a mummery. People always tend to be a mummery because egos are mummers by tendency. That is what you would be, that is what you are, that is what you always have been. You would continue to be it if you were allowed to be. I have no intention to create a
cult or tolerate a bunch of fakers. So I
always have to Address you for real and Work for the
authentication of this Way
— and do everything possible, say everything
possible, everything necessary
to get it straight, to get it right, to keep it
straight and right and leave you with
the means that can authenticate this
gathering forever. [December 21, 2004]
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