The Nature of Functioning and 'Handling Business'

 

Beezone, stimulated by a talk in 1972 by Franklin Jones (Adi Da Samraj) (see it below), has taken a talk that was originally published in the 1973 book, The Method of the Siddhas and republished in 2012 in, Right Life Is Free Recognition In Unlimited Radiance and compares both of them to see how the editors have changed the original and what the 'new' emphasis is.

The talk (p. 58 - 1973, p. 32 - 2012) starts out with a question, "What is the nature of the demand you make upon your devotees?

 

1973...........2012

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DEVOTEE: What is the nature of the demand you make upon your disciples?

1973

FRANKLIN: The conditions for understanding are Satsang. Satsang itself, when it is most consciously lived, is understanding. It already is enquiry into one's condition and action.

2011

AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: The conditions for "radical self-understanding" is devotional Communion with Me. That Communion Itself, when it is most consciously lived, is "radical self-understanding".

Change:

conditions for understanding are Satsang

- changes to -

conditions for "radical self-understanding" is devotional Communion with Me.

---

Satsang itself

- changes to -

That Communion Itself

---

when it is most consciously lived, is understanding

- changes to -

when it is most consciously lived, is "radical self-understanding"

---

- removed -

It already is enquiry into one's condition and action.


1973

It is meditation. Satsang is the real condition. That is why it goes on apart from the search, prior to your dilemma and suffering. A man should not approach his Guru in order to carry on his search. He should approach his Guru with devotion, as one who has found, and put his search down at his Guru 's feet.

2011

It is meditation. Devotional Communion with Me is the Real Condition. That is why It goes on apart from the search. Prior to your dilemma and suffering. You should not approach Me in order to carry on the search. You should approach Me with devotion, as one who has found and put your search down at My Feet.

Changes:

Satsang

- changes to -

Devotional Communion with Me

---

Guru

- changes to -

Me


1973

The true disciple is a devotee who simply lives with his Guru. That is the spiritual practice or sadhana of Satsang. Every bit of seeking, dilemma and self-obsession that you lay down is your true gift to the Guru. All gifts symbolize that true and inner gift, and make it visible. A man may bring a flower to his Guru. The flower is very fresh and fragrant. When he smiles and puts it on the ground or in a vase it may all seem like a pleasantry. But what is represented by that flower could be the most difficult crisis of his life. The truth of that flower, of that gift, is the crisis itself.

2011

My devotee is one who has formally embraced the practice of living in constant Remembrance of Me. That is the True practice of devotional Communion with Me. Every bit of seeking, dilemma, and "self"-obsession that you lay down at My Feet is your true gift to Me. All gifts symbolize that true and inner gift, and make it visible.

Changes:

true disciple

- changes to -

My devotee

- - - -

devotee is one who has formally embraced the practice of living in constant Remembrance of Me replaces true devotee simply lives with his Guru.

practice of devotional Communion with Me

- changes to -

spiritual practice of sadhana.


1973

Someone may bring a flower to Me. The flower is very fresh and fragrant. When the person smiles and puts it on the ground or in a vase, it may all seem like a pleasantry. But what is represented by that flower could be the most difficult crisis of the person's life. The truth of that flower, of that gift, is the crisis itself.

2012

Someone may bring a flower to Me. The flower is very fresh and fragrant. When the person smiles and puts it on the ground or in a vase, it may all seem like a pleasantry. But what is represented by that flower could be the most difficult crisis of the person's life. The truth of that flower, of that gift, is the crisis itself.

Changes:

to Me

- changes to -

to his Guru.


1973

When a man begins to live his life functionally, as relationship, when he accepts the simplest level of responsibility and lives it consciously, in spite of conflict, of difficulty, then life itself becomes sadhana, real spiritual practice, an expression of Satsang. Such functional and responsible living is the first gift of a disciple to his Guru. Therefore, it is also the first demand of the Guru.

2012

When you begin to live your life functionally, as relationship, when you accept the simplest level of responsibility and live it consciously, in spite of conflict, in spite of difficulty, then life itself becomes Real ego-transcending practice, an expression of devotional Communion with Me. Such functional and responsible living is the first gift of My devotee to Me. Therefore, it is also My first demand.

Changes:

life becomes sadhana

- changes to -

life becomes Real ego-transcending practice

- - -

an expression of Satsang

- changes to -

an expression of devotional Communion with Me.

- - -

Guru - changes to - to Me


1973

I truly expect those who live with me to master life, to create my Ashram, to live this work, to give it their life-force, to produce it with intensity and love, and to make Satsang available to every human being who has the sensitivity to this one. I do not expect, nor do I support anything less than that. I expect you to function. Confrontation with the functional demand of life is your test from day to day. It is a sign to you of your state from hour to hour. It is on this functional level that people begin to enjoy realization, understanding and Truth.

2012

I truly expect My devotees to master life, to serve My Divine Avataric Blessing-Work, to live the process of devotional Communion with Me in My Divine Avataric Company, to give it their life-force, to live it with intensity and love, and to make the devotional relationship to Me available to every human being who devotionally recognizes Me. I do not expect, nor do I support, anything less than that. I expect you to function. Confrontation with the functional demand of life is your test from day to day. It is a sign to you of your state from hour to hour. It is on this functional level that My devotees must begin the process of observing, understanding, and transcending the egoic "self"-which process is the indispensable foundation for the Realization of Truth.

Changes:

to create my Ashram

- changes to -

to serve My Divine Avataric Blessing-Work

- - -

to make Satsang available to every human being who has the sensitivity to this one

- changes to -

to to make the devotional relationship to Me available to every human being who devotionally recognizes Me.


1973

I am in dealing with the superficial and smiling level in you. I am always aware of your visible suffering. I always want to deal with that suffering, seeking, dilemma, contraction and resistance. Satsang deals with that. It undermines your lack of functioning. It is your craziness that we must deal with. We can already be friendly, but we can't already enjoy the Heart together. Since that is the case, we must deal with it. We must deal with the obstruction as it is. And Satsang is the appropriate way to deal with it. I do not mean some sort of confrontation, where we have it out with one another, or where you get to yell at me, make demands, get very upset, or go through a whole emotional act. Things happen like this occasionally, but, essentially, that is not Satsang. Satsang in itself doesn't necessarily have any obvious drama associated with it, and yet these fundamental obstructions are continually dealt with.

2012

I am not in dealing with the superficial and smiling level in you. I am always aware of your visible suffering. I always want to deal with that suffering, seeking, dilemma, contraction, resistance. Devotional Communion with Me deals with all of that. It undermines your lack of functioning. Your craziness is what must be dealt with. I can engage you in a friendly manner-but, as My beginning devotee, you are not presently capable of simply Enjoying the Living Presence of the Heart in My Divine Avataric Company. Since that is the case, the obstruction in yourself (as it is manifesting in present-time) is what must be dealt with. And devotional Communion with Me is the appropriate means to deal with it.

Changes:

Satsang

- changes to -

Devotional Communion

- - -

but we can't already enjoy the Heart together

- changes to -

you are not presently capable of simply Enjoying the Living Presence of the Heart in My Divine Avataric Company.

---

Satsang is the appropriate way to deal with it.

- changes to -

devotional Communion with Me is the appropriate means to deal with it.


1973

I do not mean some sort of confrontation, where we have it out with one another, or where you get to yell at me, make demands, get very upset, or go through a whole emotional act. Things happen like this occasionally, but, essentially, that is not Satsang. Satsang in itself doesn't necessarily have any obvious drama associated with it, and yet these fundamental obstructions are continually dealt with.

2012

I do not mean some sort of confrontation - in which you and I have it out with one another, or in which you get to yell at Me, make demands, get very upset, or play out your entire emotional act. That is not the essential nature of devotional Communion with Me. Devotional Communion with Me is not necessarily associated with any obvious drama - and, yet, these fundamental obstructions are continually dealt with.

Changes:

Satsang

- changes to -

devotional Communion


1973

I have lived this work with people for a long time, and I have seen the drama that gets played with the symbol of the Guru. I have seen people approach me as if they were either my parent or my child, for months or even years, always being conscientiously pleasant with me, praising me, seeming to be a devoted disciple, but in time I have seen these same people try to work "black magic" on me, obsessed with threats, undermining the sadhana and harmony of other people in secretive ways, until they finally separated from me, and remained preoccupied with all kinds of negative judgments about me from then on.

2012

I have lived this relationship with people for a long time, and I have seen the drama that gets played with the symbol of the Guru. I have seen people approach Me as if they were either My parent or My child, for months or even years - always being conscientiously pleasant with Me, praising Me, seeming to be a devoted disciple. Yet, in time, I have seen these same people try to work "black magic" on Me, obsessed with threats, undermining the practice and harmony of other people by secretive means until they finally separated from Me, and remained preoccupied with all kinds of negative judgments about Me from then on.

Changes:

I have lived this work

- changes to -

I have lived this relationship


1973

Such people never suspect that the drama they are living from day to day is their own. They always suspect that it is in life somewhere, that it is something that comes on them, like bacteria. Everything they deal with on a relational, functional level is interpreted in that symbolic way. They never suspect themselves.

2012

Such people never suspect that the drama they are living from day to day is their own. They always presume that the drama is "out there" in life somewhere - that it is something that comes on them, like bacteria. Everything they deal with on a relational, functional level is interpreted in that symbolic manner. They never suspect themselves.

Changes:

always suspect that it is in life somewhere

- changes to -

always presume that the drama is "out there" in life somewhere


1973

But the true disciple must become very suspicious of himself. He must have played his game long enough, so that he knows what he is up to. It is fine that he knows what he is up to.

2012

But, as My devotee, you must become very suspicious of yourself. You must have played your game long enough that you know what you are up to. It is essential that you know this.

Changes:

minor....


1973

And I know what he is up to. I find his drama, his seeking, completely acceptable. I find it completely livable, endurable, understandable, and transformable from the point of view of the Heart.

2012

And I also Know what My devotee is up to. I find My devotee's drama, his or here seeking, completely transformable, from the Disposition of the True Divine Heart.

Changes:

completely livable, endurable, understandable, and transformable

- changes to -

completely transformable

-

from the point of view of the Heart.

- changes to -

from the Disposition of the True Divine Heart.


1973

I am not the least interested in preventing it. I am entirely willing to allow that to be my disciple's present state, and to live Satsang from that moment in those terms.

2012

I am not the least interested in preventing that drama. Rather, I am interested in my devotee observing and understanding what he or she is up to - and thereby, transcending all forms of ego drama.

Changes:

willing to allow that to be my disciple's present state

- changes to -

interested in my devotee observing and understanding what he or she is up to


1973

But when we begin to live it in those terms with one another, a creative event has replaced the ordinary round of life. There is no longer any suffering or seeking to justify, to defend, to support, to make survive through time. For the moment, particularly tonight, we are looking at this fact: at the level of life there is essentially the failure to function. That is the fact about this gathering. That is the fact, not the Truth.

2012

When you begin to live the devotional relationship to Me in those terms, then a transformative event has replaced the ordinary round of life. There is no longer any suffering or any seeking to justify, to defend, to support, to make survive through time.

Changes:

But when we begin to live it in those terms with one another

- changes to -

When you begin to live the devotional relationship to Me

 




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